Sunday, June 28, 2009

Notes on marriage equality

Dear pals,

A close, but somewhat blog-shy friend sent me an email commenting on my last post. Since s/he is such a wicked smart person, I wanted to share his/her comments with you all. Here, then, without editorial comment, is the note [Hope that's okay blog-shy pal!]:

Gay marriage is something that I have a hard time with--not because I'm agin it, but because I think its advocates are making lots of mistakes that play into the hands of their opponents.

First, let's not pretend, as I heard some people say in the California debates, that this is such a fundamental right that it may not be subject to the political process. In the world of fundamental rights, it's an extremely recent discovery, and I think it's unreasonable to expect people to accept it as such simply because some Supreme Court or another said so. As with Roe v. Wade, it is a political mistake, as well as something that's extremely damaging to our political and social fabric, for an unelected council of "wise men" to yank a contentious issue out of politics when the nation as a whole isn't anywhere near a consensus. Lead, certainly--but not by so much that the bulk of the people can't even see you.

It was absolutely critical, in the case of gay marriage in Massachusetts, that the otherwise spineless, corrupt, and generally contemptible legislature finally came up with the intestinal fortitude to vote on a petition to amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage (after the SJC had made it a right)--various of the legislative "leaders" were trying all kinds of shenanigans to let the petition die without a vote, in clear violation of the state constitution's clauses dealing with amendments. Because they voted, even though the amendment didn't get enough votes from the legislature to be put on the ballot (and therefore died), the opponents of gay marriage could no longer argue that they'd been shut out of the process.

I don't think the opponents of gay marriage generally have good, solid, well-reasoned arguments to use--there aren't any. But. Tradition, visceral reaction to change, visceral reaction to hearing that your cherished beliefs, learned at your mother's knee, are primitive and irrational, visceral reaction to hearing that you have nowhere in politics to express those beliefs... You have to deal with those things, too. Time will work. Patience will work. Bullying, not so much. Judicial decrees, in this context, count as bullying. Let the legislatures with the stones to address the issue do so, and eventually the rest of the country will be too embarrassed not to follow.

5 comments:

  1. I agree. Time will work, but don't be complacent either. Without loud mouth Gay Advocates making demands in a "do or die" type fashion - people will NEVER change and neither will laws. There can be no compromise! These political issues only make it to judicial review after people start to demand change in the law. Whether its Roe vs Wade; Jim Crow Laws or Marriage Equality -whatever - no change has come to this country without protest.

    It's impossible to be patient when you need something now...

    Robert L. Danforth
    BONIFACE NOW

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  2. Agreed, Robert, patience and waiting are tall orders. I do find some comfort, tho, in the reported facts that younger people are not as biased on this issue as are their parents. That's small comfort, I know.

    -mttw

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  3. Patience, well, maybe.

    When I hear politicians and people on the street say "now is not the right time..." I think of Ms. Rosa Parks and someone saying to her, "you know Ms. Parks, today might not be a good day to sit in the front..."

    Okay then, for all kinds of civil rights issues, marriage equality (not Gay Marriage) included, I always want to ask politicians and others looking out for my best interest, "you let me know when is the right time?, tomorrow? the day after? next week? Pick a day and time, let me know, and then I'll be back."

    See why I'm not such a fan of patience in such things?

    : - )

    And yes, young people, they will have NOTHING to do with such inequality. Phew!

    Mark

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  4. Hi, Mark! So glad you're here!

    Firstly, thanks for your help with naming. I've hated using the "Gay Marriage" tag and was struggling with same-sex. Neither worked. Marriage equality hits the nail on the head.

    I really love the quote Robert has on his blog from Melissa Etheridge. I won't duplicate it here, but the essence is "I pay taxes and deserve the same rights as everyone else." It's that simple.

    Definitely not a fan of patience myself. But sometimes when I get so pissed at the world (longest, most recent bout was 1999-2008), I have to calm myself with the hope that the next generation will do better, and the one after that, better still. Those thoughts, together with a cold bottle of pinot grigio seem to help sometimes.

    Oh, I forgot: pleasant thoughts, the pinot, and good conversation with my friends--that's what helps some.

    -mttw

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